tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post3964519246093906035..comments2023-07-05T03:28:27.772-07:00Comments on Shalom, Dena: "Church" as a Stage of Development...Denahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05100904350829701234noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-90398014864946670152009-06-24T23:06:17.939-07:002009-06-24T23:06:17.939-07:00I'm coming to love and embrace all the 'st...I'm coming to love and embrace all the 'stages' of this wonderful process, because I know by doing so I'm fully accepting myself as Who I Really Am. And everyone around me benefits when that happens. Amen to all, Dena.Harry Rileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14341037712756284832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-13628188723972017342009-06-24T21:26:11.505-07:002009-06-24T21:26:11.505-07:00Oh! Brilliant, Annie!
So, when we get the two c...Oh! Brilliant, Annie!<br /><br />So, when we get the two confused, we end up with group-think and spiritual masturbation..?<br /><br />(couldn't resist!)<br /><br />Shalom, Denadenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-1686634750249583492009-06-24T21:19:56.670-07:002009-06-24T21:19:56.670-07:00as i've contemplated the role of "church&...as i've contemplated the role of "church" (community) in our lives, i've come to this thought...<br /><br />love is a team sport. belief is an individual event.<br /><br />it's when we get the two crossed up that we miss the point. selah :)annienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-17112099007433987102009-06-24T20:11:45.177-07:002009-06-24T20:11:45.177-07:00Anna -
Yes, and the IC works hard to keep folks i...Anna -<br /><br />Yes, and the IC works hard to keep folks in a state of immature dependency -- rather than growing up in to maturity.<br /><br />Funny - God created us in His own image, and then we return the favor. He wants relationship, but we insist upon an institution to serve us. Problem is, the institution becomes a machine that must be served ... and so religion becomes all about *doing* ... and we stay on that treadmill, exhausting ourselves with the need to conform, comply, and earn God's pleasure.<br /><br />All He ever wanted was for us to *be* in relationship with Him. The only doing that's worthwhile is that which flows out of beingness.<br /><br />I'm so delighted that we're all waking up...!<br /><br />Keep shaking us awake, God...!<br /><br />Shalom, Denadenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-2136045226960895252009-06-24T18:00:17.253-07:002009-06-24T18:00:17.253-07:00Definitely more freedom.
Well said and yes, suc...Definitely more freedom. <br /><br />Well said and yes, such peace. =)Show Us The Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444255663345917343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-71457607908673823322009-06-24T17:57:06.745-07:002009-06-24T17:57:06.745-07:00Just talking about this last night. How some peop...Just talking about this last night. How some people need the security, the congruity, the sameness of having a pastor (who learned from a seminary, who set down on paper the "doctrines", the "do's and don'ts" ) so there is something permanent, concrete to stand on, no swimming in the sea of uncertainty, no swimming in ambiguity, no being tossed around by questions and ponderances, just go and see what the pastor/elders, church board, the National Denominational Board, says about any issue or topic and then just camp there, in the safe and in the group.<br /><br />It does make sense to see how the IC has become what it is today and how human desire for "answers" and "safety" in belonging, and having a rock to cling to, and how easily we focus on the outer irritation instead of looking within for the deeper cause of the problem. <br /><br />We are all told how kids need structure, rules, boundaries to feel safe and in which to freely grow. The IC provides that.<br /><br />AnnaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15347383994274902914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-23915188317032874252009-06-24T17:47:57.352-07:002009-06-24T17:47:57.352-07:00Yet-more freedom, no?
I'm seeing that the One...Yet-more freedom, no?<br /><br />I'm seeing that the One Inclusive God leads me to internal inclusion, as well as external inclusion ... such peace!<br /><br />Shalom, Denadenanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2432734053115127369.post-83944332114868055212009-06-24T17:40:39.606-07:002009-06-24T17:40:39.606-07:00I have found much of this to be true in my life an...I have found much of this to be true in my life and agree with the not despising the stages you have passed through. I don't regret the church stage in my life and feel it did bring me to a deeper understanding of what I do want/need now.<br />KrystalShow Us The Worldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06444255663345917343noreply@blogger.com